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http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st02/st02028.htm

SENATE, No. 2028
Senate, April 6, 2008

The committee on Healthcare Financing, to whom was referred the
petition (accompanied by petitions, Senate, No. 18 and House, No.
108), relative to pandemic preparation and response in the
Commonwealth, reported, recommending that the same ought to pass, with
an amendment substituting a new draft of the same title (Senate, No.
2028).

Richard T. Moore,
For the committee

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The Commonwealth of Massachusetts


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In the Year Two Thousand and Nine.

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AN ACT RELATIVE TO PANDEMIC AND DISASTER PREPARATION AND RESPONSE IN
THE COMMONWEALTH.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General
Court assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:



SECTION 1. Chapter 17 of the General Laws is hereby amended by
striking out section 2A, as appearing in the 2006 Official Edition,
and inserting in place thereof the following section:-

Section 2A. (a) Upon declaration by the governor that an emergency
exists which is detrimental to the public health or upon declaration
of a state of emergency under chapter 639 of the acts of 1950, as
amended, the commissioner may, during such period of emergency, take
such action and incur such liabilities as he or she may consider
necessary to assure the maintenance of public health and the
prevention of disease. The commissioner may establish procedures to be
followed during such emergency to ensure the continuation of essential
public health services and the enforcement of the same.
In circumstances where the governor declares that the emergency
detrimental to public health is limited to a specified local area, the
appropriate local public health authority, as defined in section 1 of
chapter 111, may, with the approval of the commissioner, during such
period of emergency, take such action and incur such liabilities as it
may deem necessary to assure the maintenance of public health and the
prevention of disease. Furthermore, in such circumstances, such local
public health authority may, with the approval of the commissioner,
establish procedures to be followed during such emergency to insure
the continuation of essential public health services and the
enforcement of the same. Nothing in this section shall supersede the
normal operating authority of the local public health authorities,
provided that such authority shall not be exercised in a manner that
conflicts with any procedure or order issued by the Commissioner to
assure the maintenance of public health and the prevention of disease
during such emergency.

(b) Upon declaring a public health emergency or state of emergency,
the governor may activate the state comprehensive emergency management
plan and its associated processes, including authority pursuant to
chapter 639 of the acts of 1950. Such declaration may authorize the
deployment and use of any forces to which the plan applies and the use
or distribution of any supplies, equipment, materials, and facilities
assembled, stockpiled, or available.

(c) During such public health emergency or state of emergency, any
person who renders assistance or advice during the emergency as
provided in section 1 of chapter 258 shall be protected from liability
to the extent provided by chapter 258.

(d) During such public health emergency or state of emergency, any
person owning or controlling real estate or other premises who
voluntarily and without compensation grants a license or privilege, or
otherwise permits the designation or use of the whole or any part or
parts of such real estate or premises for the purpose of assisting in
responding to the emergency, shall not be civilly liable for causing
the death of, or injury to, any person on or about such real estate or
premises under such license, privilege, or other permission, or for
causing loss of, or damage to, the property of such person, except in
the event of willful, wanton, or reckless misconduct. The immunities
provided in this subsection shall not apply to any person whose act or
omission caused in whole or in part such emergency or who would
otherwise be liable therefore.


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REMITROM
2009-09-27 13:17:09 UTC
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H1N1 Pandemic Bill Equals Martial Law - Medical Police State

SENATE, No. 2028
Senate, April 6, 2008
The committee on Healthcare Financing, to whom was referred the
petition (accompanied by petitions, Senate, No. 18 and House, No.
108), relative to pandemic preparation and response in the
Commonwealth, reported, recommending that the same ought to pass, with
an amendment substituting a new draft of the same title (Senate, No.
2028).
Richard T. Moore,
For the committee
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The Commonwealth of Massachusetts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In the Year Two Thousand and Nine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AN ACT RELATIVE TO PANDEMIC AND DISASTER PREPARATION AND RESPONSE IN
THE COMMONWEALTH.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General
SECTION 1. Chapter 17 of the General Laws is hereby amended by
striking out section 2A, as appearing in the 2006 Official Edition,
and inserting in place thereof the following section:-
Section 2A. (a) Upon declaration by the governor that an emergency
exists which is detrimental to the public health or upon declaration
of a state of emergency under chapter 639 of the acts of 1950, as
amended, the commissioner may, during such period of emergency, take
such action and incur such liabilities as he or she may consider
necessary to assure the maintenance of public health and the
prevention of disease. The commissioner may establish procedures to be
followed during such emergency to ensure the continuation of essential
public health services and the enforcement of the same.
In circumstances where the governor declares that the emergency
detrimental to public health is limited to a specified local area, the
appropriate local public health authority, as defined in section 1 of
chapter 111, may, with the approval of the commissioner, during such
period of emergency, take such action and incur such liabilities as it
may deem necessary to assure the maintenance of public health and the
prevention of disease. Furthermore, in such circumstances, such local
public health authority may, with the approval of the commissioner,
establish procedures to be followed during such emergency to insure
the continuation of essential public health services and the
enforcement of the same. Nothing in this section shall supersede the
normal operating authority of the local public health authorities,
provided that such authority shall not be exercised in a manner that
conflicts with any procedure or order issued by the Commissioner to
assure the maintenance of public health and the prevention of disease
during such emergency.
(b) Upon declaring a public health emergency or state of emergency,
the governor may activate the state comprehensive emergency management
plan and its associated processes, including authority pursuant to
chapter 639 of the acts of 1950. Such declaration may authorize the
deployment and use of any forces to which the plan applies and the use
or distribution of any supplies, equipment, materials, and facilities
assembled, stockpiled, or available.
(c) During such public health emergency or state of emergency, any
person who renders assistance or advice during the emergency as
provided in section 1 of chapter 258 shall be protected from liability
to the extent provided by chapter 258.
(d) During such public health emergency or state of emergency, any
person owning or controlling real estate or other premises who
voluntarily and without compensation grants a license or privilege, or
otherwise permits the designation or use of the whole or any part or
parts of such real estate or premises for the purpose of assisting in
responding to the emergency, shall not be civilly liable for causing
the death of, or injury to, any person on or about such real estate or
premises under such license, privilege, or other permission, or for
causing loss of, or damage to, the property of such person, except in
the event of willful, wanton, or reckless misconduct. The immunities
provided in this subsection shall not apply to any person whose act or
omission caused in whole or in part such emergency or who would
otherwise be liable therefore.
TOO LONG, GO TO LINK.
Dan,

I've participated in numerous emergency planning exercises in my town
and, quite simply, there is no other way to protect public health in
the case of a pandemic influenza than to enact drastic measures.

Extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary responses.

David
Dan Myers
2009-09-27 16:20:50 UTC
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Post by Dan Myers
H1N1 Pandemic Bill Equals Martial Law - Medical Police State
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SENATE, No. 2028
Senate, April 6, 2008
The committee on Healthcare Financing, to whom was referred the
petition (accompanied by petitions, Senate, No. 18 and House, No.
108), relative to pandemic preparation and response in the
Commonwealth, reported, recommending that the same ought to pass, with
an amendment substituting a new draft of the same title (Senate, No.
2028).
Richard T. Moore,
For the committee
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The Commonwealth of Massachusetts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----
In the Year Two Thousand and Nine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----
AN ACT RELATIVE TO PANDEMIC AND DISASTER PREPARATION AND RESPONSE IN
THE COMMONWEALTH.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General
SECTION 1. Chapter 17 of the General Laws is hereby amended by
striking out section 2A, as appearing in the 2006 Official Edition,
and inserting in place thereof the following section:-
Section 2A. (a) Upon declaration by the governor that an emergency
exists which is detrimental to the public health or upon declaration
of a state of emergency under chapter 639 of the acts of 1950, as
amended, the commissioner may, during such period of emergency, take
such action and incur such liabilities as he or she may consider
necessary to assure the maintenance of public health and the
prevention of disease. The commissioner may establish procedures to be
followed during such emergency to ensure the continuation of essential
public health services and the enforcement of the same.
In circumstances where the governor declares that the emergency
detrimental to public health is limited to a specified local area, the
appropriate local public health authority, as defined in section 1 of
chapter 111, may, with the approval of the commissioner, during such
period of emergency, take such action and incur such liabilities as it
may deem necessary to assure the maintenance of public health and the
prevention of disease. Furthermore, in such circumstances, such local
public health authority may, with the approval of the commissioner,
establish procedures to be followed during such emergency to insure
the continuation of essential public health services and the
enforcement of the same. Nothing in this section shall supersede the
normal operating authority of the local public health authorities,
provided that such authority shall not be exercised in a manner that
conflicts with any procedure or order issued by the Commissioner to
assure the maintenance of public health and the prevention of disease
during such emergency.
(b) Upon declaring a public health emergency or state of emergency,
the governor may activate the state comprehensive emergency management
plan and its associated processes, including authority pursuant to
chapter 639 of the acts of 1950. Such declaration may authorize the
deployment and use of any forces to which the plan applies and the use
or distribution of any supplies, equipment, materials, and facilities
assembled, stockpiled, or available.
(c) During such public health emergency or state of emergency, any
person who renders assistance or advice during the emergency as
provided in section 1 of chapter 258 shall be protected from liability
to the extent provided by chapter 258.
(d) During such public health emergency or state of emergency, any
person owning or controlling real estate or other premises who
voluntarily and without compensation grants a license or privilege, or
otherwise permits the designation or use of the whole or any part or
parts of such real estate or premises for the purpose of assisting in
responding to the emergency, shall not be civilly liable for causing
the death of, or injury to, any person on or about such real estate or
premises under such license, privilege, or other permission, or for
causing loss of, or damage to, the property of such person, except in
the event of willful, wanton, or reckless misconduct. The immunities
provided in this subsection shall not apply to any person whose act or
omission caused in whole or in part such emergency or who would
otherwise be liable therefore.
TOO LONG, GO TO LINK.
Dan,
I've participated in numerous emergency planning exercises in my town
and, quite simply, there is no other way to protect public health in
the case of a pandemic influenza than to enact drastic measures.
Extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary responses.
David
Bullshit!!
Dan Myers
2009-09-27 17:50:20 UTC
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Extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary responses.
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This is a load of Bullshit.

H1N1 has amounted to nothing more than a bad flu.

I know many people (including myself) that have had it and recovered
with no problems, many of them said that they suffered no more with
H1N1 than they did from a nasty cold.

Mandatory forced vaccinations is ridiculous and a clear sign of this
Government over-stepping it's authority and abridging your rights.

I work with "mentally disordered criminal offenders" that routinely
refuse their medication, in some cases life-saving medication and we
can not force them to take their meds.
Now if we can't "force" a pychotic killer to take his medication or a
diabetic or AID's pattient, why does this Administration think they
can force anyone to take this vaccination?
REMITROM
2009-09-28 12:09:16 UTC
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Post by REMITROM
Extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary responses.
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This is a load of Bullshit.
H1N1 has amounted to nothing more than a bad flu.
Tell that to the parents of this young, healthy adult who left home
for his freshman year in college a few weeks ago.

"A Miami (OH) University freshman from Hingham, Mass. died Saturday in
Cincinnati, reportedly from complications of the H1N1 virus.

Reports say 18-year-old Matthew Healey, who graduated from Thayer
Academy in Braintree, got sick shortly after starting college at the
Ohio school."
Dan Myers
2009-09-28 16:23:48 UTC
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Extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary responses.
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This is a load of Bullshit.
H1N1 has amounted to nothing more than a bad flu.
Tell that to the parents of this young, healthy adult who left home
for his freshman year in college a few weeks ago.
"A Miami (OH) University freshman from Hingham, Mass. died Saturday in
Cincinnati, reportedly from complications of the H1N1 virus.
Reports say 18-year-old Matthew Healey, who graduated from Thayer
Academy in Braintree, got sick shortly after starting college at the
Ohio school."
Let's not forget the many people who died over the years from the side
effects of other 'Flu vaccines' that were not thoroughly tested, the
people that suffered severe reactions from 'unforeseen' allergic
reactions due to insufficiant pre-trials.
Now let's force everyone to submit to inoculations with this substance
because a handful of peoplehave succumbed to a disease that many
hundreds of others have easily recovered from.

Let's let the Government take away more of your Rights and possibly
your life.
REMITROM
2009-09-29 12:23:43 UTC
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Post by REMITROM
Post by Dan Myers
Post by REMITROM
Extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary responses.
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This is a load of Bullshit.
H1N1 has amounted to nothing more than a bad flu.
Tell that to the parents of this young, healthy adult who left home
for his freshman year in college a few weeks ago.
"A Miami (OH) University freshman from Hingham, Mass. died Saturday in
Cincinnati, reportedly from complications of the H1N1 virus.
Reports say 18-year-old Matthew Healey, who graduated from Thayer
Academy in Braintree, got sick shortly after starting college at the
Ohio school."
Let's not forget the many people who died over the years from the side
effects of other 'Flu vaccines' that were not thoroughly tested, the
people that suffered severe reactions from 'unforeseen' allergic
reactions due to insufficiant pre-trials.
Now let's force everyone to submit to inoculations with this substance
because a handful of people have succumbed to a disease that many
hundreds of others have easily recovered from.
Let's let the Government take away more of your Rights and possibly
your life.
In a last attempt to try to educate you to the difference between the
seasonal flu and a pandemic influenza (which is what H1N1 has been
defined by the WORLD Health Organization), I'd ask that you read :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_flu

If that fails to convince you that these are extraordinary
circumstances, I can only conclude that you are happy living in remote
Montana with the rest of your Survivalist brethern who are awaiting
the start of world-wide Armageddon.
David Looser
2009-09-29 14:07:46 UTC
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"REMITROM" <***@yahoo.com> wrote

In a last attempt to try to educate you to the difference between the
seasonal flu and a pandemic influenza (which is what H1N1 has been
defined by the WORLD Health Organization), I'd ask that you read :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_flu

All that the word "pandemic" means is that the disease exists throughout the
world, it *doesn't* mean that it is a serious disease. As far as most people
who catch it are concerned the H1N1 flu is less serious than normal seasonal
flu is. Yes, there are rare fatalities, just as there are with seasonal flu,
because of some underlying condition in those few people. But most of those
infected recover within a week or two.

David.
Dan Myers
2009-09-29 14:20:29 UTC
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On Sep 28, .
In a last attempt to try to educate you to the difference between the
seasonal flu and a pandemic influenza (which is what H1N1 has been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_flu
If that fails to convince you that these are extraordinary
circumstances, I can only conclude that you are happy living in remote
Montana with the rest of your Survivalist brethern who are awaiting
the start of world-wide Armageddon.
Now isn't that funny?
You're the one crying Doom and gloom over a flu bug and and accuse me
of that?

By the way anyone with a functioning brain knows I reside in Southern
California less than 50 miles from L.A.
Hardly "survivalist country", now crawl back in your bio-bubble before
you get a sniffle.

FYI: I've been in healthcare for 30+ years.
REMITROM
2009-09-30 10:04:37 UTC
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Post by Dan Myers
On Sep 28, .
In a last attempt to try to educate you to the difference between the
seasonal flu and a pandemic influenza (which is what H1N1 has been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_flu
If that fails to convince you that these are extraordinary
circumstances, I can only conclude that you are happy living in remote
Montana with the rest of your Survivalist brethern who are awaiting
the start of world-wide Armageddon.
Now isn't that funny?
You're the one crying Doom and gloom over a flu bug and and accuse me
of that?
By the way anyone with a functioning brain knows I reside in Southern
California less than 50 miles from L.A.
Hardly "survivalist country", now crawl back in your bio-bubble before
you get a sniffle.
FYI I've been in healthcare for 30+ years.
"FYI I've been in healthcare for 30+ years." Back in my religious days
I often heard the phrase"invincibly ignorant"and was unsure of its
definition. Thanks to you, I now clearly know what that phrase
means!

By the way, I didn't know that being a patient of the mental health
system qualified one to say that they had been "in healthcare" for 30+
years?

Since the world doesn't revolve around you, as you so obviously
believe, not "everyone with a functioning brain" knows (or cares)
where you choose to reside. But the fact that you "reside in Southern
California less than 50 miles from LA" brings to mind another phrase,
"California: the land of the fruits, the nuts and the flakes".

And to add to your needed education, you don't physically have to
reside in remote Montana to espouse the paranoia of the Survivalists.
Dan Myers
2009-09-30 20:42:20 UTC
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Post by Dan Myers
On Sep 28, .
In a last attempt to try to educate you to the difference between the
seasonal flu and a pandemic influenza (which is what H1N1 has been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_flu
If that fails to convince you that these are extraordinary
circumstances, I can only conclude that you are happy living in remote
Montana with the rest of your Survivalist brethern who are awaiting
the start of world-wide Armageddon.
Now isn't that funny?
You're the one crying Doom and gloom over a flu bug and and accuse me
of that?
By the way anyone with a functioning brain knows I reside in Southern
California less than 50 miles from L.A.
Hardly "survivalist country", now crawl back in your bio-bubble before
you get a sniffle.
FYI I've been in healthcare for 30+ years.
"FYI I've been in healthcare for 30+ years." Back in my religious days
I often heard the phrase"invincibly ignorant"and was unsure of its
definition. Thanks to you, I now clearly know what that phrase
means!
By the way, I didn't know that being a patient of the mental health
system qualified one to say that they had been "in healthcare" for 30+
years?
Since the world doesn't revolve around you, as you so obviously
believe, not "everyone with a functioning brain" knows (or cares)
where you choose to reside.  But the fact that you "reside in Southern
California less than 50 miles from LA" brings to mind another phrase,
"California: the land of the fruits, the nuts and the flakes".
And to add to your needed education, you don't physically have to
reside in remote Montana to espouse the paranoia of the Survivalists.- Hide quoted text -
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Ahhh, now REMITROM is going to resort to the insults of the terminally
failed.

Funny how people resort to this behavior when faced with something
that they can't argue out.
Dan Myers
2009-09-29 16:04:55 UTC
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On Sep 28,
In a last attempt to try to educate you to the difference between the
seasonal flu and a pandemic influenza (which is what H1N1 has been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_flu
Try a little education yourself.

http://www.nvic.org/

I prefer not to allow poison to be injected into me just because some
politician says sdo.
If that fails to convince you that these are extraordinary
circumstances, I can only conclude that you are happy living in remote
Montana with the rest of your Survivalist brethern who are awaiting
the start of world-wide Armageddon.
REMITROM
2009-09-30 09:47:48 UTC
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Post by Dan Myers
On Sep 28,
In a last attempt to try to educate you to the difference between the
seasonal flu and a pandemic influenza (which is what H1N1 has been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_flu
Try a little education yourself.
http://www.nvic.org/
I prefer not to allow poison to be injected into me just because some
politician says sdo.
If that fails to convince you that these are extraordinary
circumstances, I can only conclude that you are happy living in remote
Montana with the rest of your Survivalist brethern who are awaiting
the start of world-wide Armageddon.
Guess I don't know the secret handshake.

The link you wanted to "educate" me with simply says, "Description: An
application error occurred on the server. The current custom error
settings for this application prevent the details of the application
error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could,
however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine."

I feel smarter already!
Dan Myers
2009-09-30 20:44:49 UTC
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Post by REMITROM
Post by Dan Myers
On Sep 28,
In a last attempt to try to educate you to the difference between the
seasonal flu and a pandemic influenza (which is what H1N1 has been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_flu
Try a little education yourself.
http://www.nvic.org/
I prefer not to allow poison to be injected into me just because some
politician says sdo.
If that fails to convince you that these are extraordinary
circumstances, I can only conclude that you are happy living in remote
Montana with the rest of your Survivalist brethern who are awaiting
the start of world-wide Armageddon.
Guess I don't know the secret handshake.
The link you wanted to "educate" me with simply says, "Description: An
application error occurred on the server. The current custom error
settings for this application prevent the details of the application
error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could,
however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine."
I feel smarter already!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Maybe you should try using a real browser and get your head out of
your ass.

I tried it on two different systems and it seems to work fine, or you
could just be lying about the "Error Message".

Not too surprising.

You fail.

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