Bare Pit: Do Most Women Go To Nudist Venues for their husband?

[Anna]

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You truly sound interested in nudism and you were interested in
participating in nudism before you became a couple with anyone. But it
seems that for most couples the wife goes only as a tagalong and if
the relationship ends so does their participation in nudism. Most
couples, I mean, although I am sure that some women like you are
really into the nudist lifestyle, most seem to go just because their
husband is into it.

"Most seem to go just because their husband is into it." And you base
this ridiculous claim on what? Your personal experience?  A scientific
survey? Or did you just pull this out of your ass?

He gets it out of comic strips, of course.
The other thing that Anna loves to do, is to perpetuate the stereotypes
about nudists that non-nudists have.

All you have to do is go to the photos on Nudiarist's own blog to see
stereotypes about nudists perpetuated.
http://www.google.com/reader/shared/nudiarist
Lots of these photos he gets from back in the 1950s and 1960s from
magazines who were serving the porno crowd. Back then they didn't have
mags like Playboy and Penthouse and they had to make do with nudist
mags.  These mags realized that and catered to this group of their
clientele often by showing lots and lots of pubic hair which back then
was the big thing since it was the only place (except for National
Geographics Jungle Native photos) that pervs could see such stuff. A
little ironic that now the big thing with that crowd is to be "bare".
I don't know what that says about the general society but perhaps
because there are so many outlets like Playboy and Penthouse and
others where one could see pubic hair but not so many that one can see
prepubescent nude girls (and even less now that Amazon.com is being
nailed) pubic hair doesn't seem as unusual as seeing women bare down
there.
In 1971 a nudist owner said that what was killing nudism was the whole
sexual revolution thing where now people could go to strip clubs and
the like. I wondered why is this the case unless before then the
nudist resorts WERE actually catering to such minded people despite
all the talk back then regarding how it had nothing to do with sex.

Anna resurrects this tired and ineffective point every time he/she
gets desperate when an argument is clearly lost. Roger Ebert recently
addressed the issue of contemporary female nudes and said it better
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2010/10/to_nsfw_or_not_to_nsfw.html

From that blog..

In Europe, billboards and advertisements heedlessly show nipples.
There are not "topless beaches" so much as beaches everywhere where
bathers remove swimsuits to get an even tan.

Haven't we here proven that for the lie it really is? While of course
it is much much more tolerant than it is in the states it's not like
one can just go to a German city and start walking around without
clothes (as one really stupid American visitor found out). And if
anything, Europe has been going more the American direction in recent
years, perhaps due to the number of people emigrating from Muslim
countries to there.

France - French Women don't like to get topless anymore.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jul/22/topless-bathing-france

France - Topless Females becoming thing of the past.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/13/world/la-fg-france-topless-20100814

Forget Female Toplessness, France is even Cracking down on MALE
toplessness.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/french-police-to-fine-tourists-for-taking-off-shirts-dpgonc-20100816-fc_9199313

http://tinyurl.com/29afwd9

Now Germany, again, yes much more tolerant of nudity (especially EAST
Germany). But again, it isn't like it's just one big nudist venue
there. You just can't go down the street there nude.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2245467620070523

So, let us not overstate Europe's acceptance of nudity as we in
America tend to do. Yeah more accepting than us, but not as accepting
as some of us might think and getting less and less accepting all the
time.

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Post by Anna
In Europe, billboards and advertisements heedlessly show nipples.

Such advertisements exist, but most advertisements do not "heedlessly
show nipples".

Post by Anna
There are not "topless beaches" so much as beaches everywhere where
bathers remove swimsuits to get an even tan.

That depends. In northern and eastern Germany and perhaps parts of the
Netherlands and a few places in the south of France, that's a fair
description. Elsewhere, beaches tend to be clothed (i.e. not even
topless) (most of them) or nude (fewer, the frequency varies from
country to country with most in the Netherlands and Germany).
Clothing-optional beaches are rare.

Take it from nudists who live in Europe (on the Continent).

Post by Anna
Haven't we here proven that for the lie it really is? While of course
it is much much more tolerant than it is in the states it's not like
one can just go to a German city and start walking around without
clothes (as one really stupid American visitor found out).

True.

Post by Anna
And if
anything, Europe has been going more the American direction in recent
years,

Yes and no. Nude (or topless) bathing at "inofficial" places is not
quite as popular as it once was, but nude swimming in indoor pools has
increased quite markedly in recent years. Nudity in the sauna is the
same as it ever was. (Keep in mind though that nude mixed saunas are
the rule only in the German- and Dutch-speaking countries.)

Post by Anna
perhaps due to the number of people emigrating from Muslim
countries to there.

This is complete rubbish. Yes, some Muslim immigrants do cause some
problems, but they have NO impact on swimming customs of the
non-immigrants. None whatsoever. You keep repeating this here, rather
believing nudists who live on the Continent.